Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Moderator: FORDification
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Good afternoon,
Ten years ago I did some "sand" blasting using crushed garnet, which I heard was easier on the lungs than other material available at the time.
It worked pretty well, but even when using a respirator, plastic face shield, etc., I wondered it if was totally safe for my lungs. I've heard that the type of dust produced by this activity can lodge itself in your lungs and form permanent scar tissue (very bad)!
Does anybody know of a material I could use instead of garnet that's supposed to be less hazardous to the lungs?
Thanks!
-Robroy
Ten years ago I did some "sand" blasting using crushed garnet, which I heard was easier on the lungs than other material available at the time.
It worked pretty well, but even when using a respirator, plastic face shield, etc., I wondered it if was totally safe for my lungs. I've heard that the type of dust produced by this activity can lodge itself in your lungs and form permanent scar tissue (very bad)!
Does anybody know of a material I could use instead of garnet that's supposed to be less hazardous to the lungs?
Thanks!
-Robroy
- 71PA_Highboy
- Blue Oval Fanatic
- Posts: 923
- Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 11:32 am
- Location: Denver of the East
re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
I use 'Black Beauty'. It is a coal slag material, and I am paying $16 per 100 lbs.
hth,
eric
hth,
eric
Got Ford?
2 EarlyBroncos (68,69)
2 Classic Mustangs (69,70)
1 F250 4x4 (71) - OB - 360, NP435, D24, HPD60 4.10, D60,
1 94 Ranger, 2.3, 5spd
1 Lincoln Mark VIII
2 EarlyBroncos (68,69)
2 Classic Mustangs (69,70)
1 F250 4x4 (71) - OB - 360, NP435, D24, HPD60 4.10, D60,
1 94 Ranger, 2.3, 5spd
1 Lincoln Mark VIII
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
- 71PA_Highboy
- Blue Oval Fanatic
- Posts: 923
- Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 11:32 am
- Location: Denver of the East
re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Nope.. It is clean... Semi-low dusting.... but any media will dust after you use it.
No Silicates, so it is relatively safe....
hth,
eric
No Silicates, so it is relatively safe....
hth,
eric
Got Ford?
2 EarlyBroncos (68,69)
2 Classic Mustangs (69,70)
1 F250 4x4 (71) - OB - 360, NP435, D24, HPD60 4.10, D60,
1 94 Ranger, 2.3, 5spd
1 Lincoln Mark VIII
2 EarlyBroncos (68,69)
2 Classic Mustangs (69,70)
1 F250 4x4 (71) - OB - 360, NP435, D24, HPD60 4.10, D60,
1 94 Ranger, 2.3, 5spd
1 Lincoln Mark VIII
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
- OldRedFord
- Blue Oval Guru
- Posts: 1314
- Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:37 pm
- Location: Hull GA
- Contact:
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
I use "black diamond" should be available at your local TSC. Its also coal slag. Price is the same as "black Beauty" I do wear a mask when blasting. Just a middle of the line one with replaceable cartridges. FWIW the white part of the filter is black after 2 uses. And I wear a hood when I blast.
Tim
1972 F350 flatbed drw c6/390
1967 F600 project truck
1972 F350 flatbed drw c6/390
1967 F600 project truck
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Hi Tim, thanks for your response!
What led you to choose this particular material over other types?
I had never heard of (T)ractor (S)upply (C)ompany before your post--thanks for the tip. The nearest one is fifty miles from me but it may be worth a drive just to check their stuff out!
Thanks again,
-Robroy
What led you to choose this particular material over other types?
I had never heard of (T)ractor (S)upply (C)ompany before your post--thanks for the tip. The nearest one is fifty miles from me but it may be worth a drive just to check their stuff out!
Thanks again,
-Robroy
- OldRedFord
- Blue Oval Guru
- Posts: 1314
- Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:37 pm
- Location: Hull GA
- Contact:
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
robroy wrote:Hi Tim, thanks for your response!
What led you to choose this particular material over other types?
I had never heard of (T)ractor (S)upply (C)ompany before your post--thanks for the tip. The nearest one is fifty miles from me but it may be worth a drive just to check their stuff out!
Thanks again,
-Robroy
Well I had never done any blasting before. I bought it cause it looked like a good choice for removing rust and caked up oil and grease off of parts for my truck. Have also prepped some hand rails for paint with this same material with good results.
I picked up a 90 lb. capacity gravity fed blaster for $100 or so. Seems to do just fine for what I need. Sometimes have to swish the granules around a bit to clear up a clog, but like I said, works for what I do.
I chose the black diamond stuff cause of the availability, and to me...$8 for a 50 lb bag seems fair.
Tim
1972 F350 flatbed drw c6/390
1967 F600 project truck
1972 F350 flatbed drw c6/390
1967 F600 project truck
- dablack00
- Blue Oval Fan
- Posts: 695
- Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:32 am
- Location: Texas, Lufkin
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Another thing you can do is hook up your shop vac to the vent on the cabinet. The vent on my blasting cabinet is round and my shop vac line fits just right. It also makes it where I can see in there a lot easier. If you don't have a shop vac, get one. I use mine for everything.
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Hey Dablack00,
I'm actually blasting without a cabinet. I'm just doing it out in the yard, making a mess.
A cabinet would be a good idea, but a lot of the parts I blast are large (like inner fenders, gas tanks, etc).
Thanks!
-Robroy
I'm actually blasting without a cabinet. I'm just doing it out in the yard, making a mess.
A cabinet would be a good idea, but a lot of the parts I blast are large (like inner fenders, gas tanks, etc).
Thanks!
-Robroy
- Ranchero50
- Moderator
- Posts: 5799
- Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 pm
- Location: Maryland, Hagerstown
- Contact:
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Then use plastic sheeting to set the parts on and build partial walls so you can recycle the blasting material.
Jamie
Jamie
'70 F-350 CS Cummins 6BT 10klb truck 64k mile Bahama Blue
Contact me for CNC Dome Lamp Bezels and Ash Tray pulls.
Contact me for CNC Dome Lamp Bezels and Ash Tray pulls.
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Hey Jamie, that's a good idea, thanks. The material's a little expensive!
-Robroy
-Robroy
-
- New Member
- Posts: 231
- Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:34 pm
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
+1 On Black beauty.
I used it to do my Torino
I used it to do my Torino
- robroy
- 100% FORDified!
- Posts: 3768
- Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:36 pm
- Location: California, Salinas
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
Hey BlueOvalDave, those are great photos of your Torino!
So is Black Beauty an aggressive material (takes off rust quickly)?
So far I've tried crushed garnet and glass beads. Of course it's probably just the grit size but I found the garnet to be much more aggressive, while the beads left behind a less scored, more shiny finish on the metal. The garnet finish was dull and obviously seriously blasted, like this old guy my buddy and I used to know that lived in a trailer in the woods.
Thanks for the photos BlueOvalDave! Do you happen to have a "before" type photo of the undercarriage before Black Beauty?
-Robroy
So is Black Beauty an aggressive material (takes off rust quickly)?
So far I've tried crushed garnet and glass beads. Of course it's probably just the grit size but I found the garnet to be much more aggressive, while the beads left behind a less scored, more shiny finish on the metal. The garnet finish was dull and obviously seriously blasted, like this old guy my buddy and I used to know that lived in a trailer in the woods.
Thanks for the photos BlueOvalDave! Do you happen to have a "before" type photo of the undercarriage before Black Beauty?
-Robroy
-
- New Member
- Posts: 231
- Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:34 pm
Re: Abrasive blast materials that are easy on the lungs?
I'll look for some before pics but believe me it wasnt a pretty site under there, rusty ,scaly but no undercoating thank God! I used the remote tank which held 40lbs of material with 90-100lbs of air and it worked great, I had no problems or instances of blowing thru any sheet metal. BUT, even with the box fan pulling the dust out it was still impossible to see after3-5 minutes of blasting, I would have to wait till the dust settled before continuing on,
Here's an after pic after Por 15 and then chassis black, applied with a spray gun.
Here's an after pic after Por 15 and then chassis black, applied with a spray gun.