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I see! Yeah I can imagine how it wouldn't come out with the headers on. But I'm happy to say that I was indeed able to lift it up with them on! A detailed update is forthcoming.DuckRyder wrote:You can probably raise it quite a bit with then attached (at least on a C6 the bellhousing will hit before the headers) but It won't come out with them attached...
That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! 
TWO bags of popcorn?!!!70_F100 wrote:The suspense is KILLING me!!!
That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! 
I would say so.robroy wrote:Is the problem nailed?
If they are, I would pull the pump apart for cleaning and inspection, clean out the pick-up and replace the oil filter before firing it up again. You also may want to spray the crank throws and inside of the block down with something to make sure all of the shavings are out. And as suggested, trim the tray.70_F100 wrote:Robroy, I just looked closely at the last photo on the left.
Are those metal particles on the bottom of the oil pump?
I agree and depending on how long it ran it may be prudent to go further.BobbyFord wrote:If they are, I would pull the pump apart for cleaning and inspection, clean out the pick-up and replace the oil filter before firing it up again. You also may want to spray the crank throws and inside of the block down with something to make sure all of the shavings are out. And as suggested, trim the tray.70_F100 wrote:Robroy, I just looked closely at the last photo on the left.
Are those metal particles on the bottom of the oil pump?
The oil went through the filter before heading to the bearings so I think he'd be ok there.DuckRyder wrote:...Many would say the bearings should be inspected, but without seeing how much metal was in the drained oil and how long it ran, its difficult to say how bad the damage could be...
Yes I think they were, but their size was drastically exaggerated by the camera's flash. I wiped the area off with a paper towel and looked at the towel, and the metal shavings had vanished in the towel. I guess that doesn't make them much less dangerous though!70_F100 wrote:Robroy, I just looked closely at the last photo on the left.
Are those metal particles on the bottom of the oil pump?
Hey Robert, thanks for these options! I'd normally just clearance the Milodon tray and re-use it, but the area of the Milodon that surrounds the oil pump is very close to the pump. It's so close that it's really annoying to install and remove the tray. The pickup tube needs to be removed each time.DuckRyder wrote:I would say so.robroy wrote:Is the problem nailed?
Two options:
1) clearance the Milodon tray with a die grinder or similar...
2) replace it with an FRPP tray, which doesen't extend into that area...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-6687-A390/
I'll take the best photos I'm able to and post them!DuckRyder wrote:Oh,
and lets see the corresponding areas of the crankshaft/rods...
Was it the crank or the rod bolts...
Hey that's no sweat--thanks for pointing this out. I actually wouldn't have changed it on my own, without your advice!DuckRyder wrote:At the very minimum, you are going to have to change the oil filter...
The engine ran for a total of about ten minutes, of which eight minutes was spent idling. I arrived at this ten minute estimate by adding up all the times I fired the engine up to look for where the sound was coming from.DuckRyder wrote:How long did you run it?
Thanks for this great advice! I wouldn't have thought of pulling the oil pump apart, but that's probably a good idea. There's no time it'll be easier to access than now.BobbyFord wrote:If they are, I would pull the pump apart for cleaning and inspection, clean out the pick-up and replace the oil filter before firing it up again. You also may want to spray the crank throws and inside of the block down with something to make sure all of the shavings are out. And as suggested, trim the tray.70_F100 wrote:Are those metal particles on the bottom of the oil pump?
Will do! I can guess what their response will be already though, based on my previous interactions. It'll be "don't worry about it." We'll see!DuckRyder wrote:I think you should call the builder and discuss it with them, since you had to change the pan and windage tray due to it having incompatible parts installed I think they should bear some responsibility for this.
I'll look at the drained oil carefully! I didn't see any metal flakes in it, but I wasn't looking very closely at the time.DuckRyder wrote:Many would say the bearings should be inspected, but without seeing how much metal was in the drained oil and how long it ran, its difficult to say how bad the damage could be...
Hey I hope you're right! I guess some of the shavings could have passed through the filter, but it's hard to say.BobbyFord wrote: The oil went through the filter before heading to the bearings so I think he'd be ok there.
