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BRUTUS_T_HOG wrote:i say you just need a big 4x4 truck. a highboy with strong tow straps will be able to yank it out easily especially with a little bit of a running start
That's what i'm thinking.... shouldnt need a backhoe. Get it out of its holes, jack it up with a hi lift or floor jack with skid under it and get the thing to roll. Winch it onto a trailer and you're done. no paying anyone $100.
Just be careful if you give it a tug. It probably would need a little tug but be smart about it.
Two highboy's and it should be easy as can be. If only you were closer! I love pulling stuff out, yet to fail at it and challenging pulls are the best.
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My Dodge would pull the frame out from under that car. Find someone with a 3/4 ton 4x4 with GOOD tires on it. Bald all-terrains wont cut it.

Too bad about that old car. Looks like it was a fancy ride back in the day.
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cut that dead stuff far enough back you can work around the car. put blocks or wood down to set a jack on. jack up the car. either on the side or on the end. get one wheel to start coming up out of the dirt. as it comes up throw 2x4's rock dirt whatever under the tire. keep resetting the jack and more blocking under whatever you can. preferably under the tires. keep doing this until the tires are out of the holes. flat or not. then once it is up out of the hole. place boards if needed to drag or roll the car out of the hole. if need be you can take lots of blocking out there and put it under the bumper when the jack reaches max height. and then rest the jacks to go higher. always pyramid your blocking. large on the bottom to smaller on top. if yo uhave to place two blocks side by side for a wider base. then you set two more blocks on top of thew going the opposite way across the first two blocks. you are crau ling the blocking. this is the method for jacking up and setting mobile homes carnival rides and moving stick build homes. you can also build cradle blocking. 2x4's layed side by side. and then 2x4's across the top of the first set laying the oppisite direction nailed together. and then another set on top of that and so on. two -three layers is about enough though. the cradle blocking can be about 16-24 inches square/and the best part is you can reuse these for a long time, that size is pretty good for setting bottle jacks on. as well as stacking to hold up stuff of all kinds. it can be done. i would worry abou tgettgin aire dup tires last.
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1971ford wrote:
BRUTUS_T_HOG wrote:i say you just need a big 4x4 truck. a highboy with strong tow straps will be able to yank it out easily especially with a little bit of a running start
That's what i'm thinking.... shouldnt need a backhoe. Get it out of its holes, jack it up with a hi lift or floor jack with skid under it and get the thing to roll. Winch it onto a trailer and you're done. no paying anyone $100.
Just be careful if you give it a tug. It probably would need a little tug but be smart about it.
Two highboy's and it should be easy as can be. If only you were closer! I love pulling stuff out, yet to fail at it and challenging pulls are the best.
It was suggested to me tonight to double pull it. Meaning to take a chain from the car to one truck, and chain up between the truck and another all in a line.
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OldRedFord wrote:
1971ford wrote:
BRUTUS_T_HOG wrote:i say you just need a big 4x4 truck. a highboy with strong tow straps will be able to yank it out easily especially with a little bit of a running start
That's what i'm thinking.... shouldnt need a backhoe. Get it out of its holes, jack it up with a hi lift or floor jack with skid under it and get the thing to roll. Winch it onto a trailer and you're done. no paying anyone $100.
Just be careful if you give it a tug. It probably would need a little tug but be smart about it.
Two highboy's and it should be easy as can be. If only you were closer! I love pulling stuff out, yet to fail at it and challenging pulls are the best.
It was suggested to me tonight to double pull it. Meaning to take a chain from the car to one truck, and chain up between the truck and another all in a line.
I would much rather have two capable 4x4's with good tires side by side both with there own strap (notice how i didn't say chain. Chain's are sketchy. If you are going to use one please stand way the hell back) or it can be one strap if it's long enough and there's a good spot to loop it through on the stuck wagon. Get both truck's in their lowest gear obviously and let them work together as one. With 8 good tires spinning (disclaimer: possibly less, depending on diff setups) in a low gear there's no way that thing is not coming out.
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tsherry on Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:19 am
5 on 4.5 for sure.
Agreed, from the tail lights it's a 72 "fishmouth". The tail light alone are ebayable, and the engine as well. :2cents:
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As long as it's been sitting, another problem you will likely run into is locked up rear drum-brakes. They can be a PITA :x
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It's a shame a nice old wagon like that spent most of its life rotting away. If I got it pulled I'd still try to save whatever parts from it I could. Realistically though, if you're only going to get $600 for it in scrap value you gotta figure in both the cost of equipment and fuel with the cost of your time. It might not be worth all of that effort to pull it out.
It was suggested to me tonight to double pull it. Meaning to take a chain from the car to one truck, and chain up between the truck and another all in a line.
Be careful with that, I've heard of cases where the "middle" truck can get pretty badly damaged if something goes wrong. I'd rather put them in parallel than in series.
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tsherry wrote:5 on 4.5 for sure.
From what it looks like in the pictures ,the frame less door windows and the taillights ,
And If its a full size and not a Torino
it's looks like a '73-78 and I believe they have a bigger bolt pattern :2cents:
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A few years back I bought one of these LTD station wagons to use as a donor. It was a 1972 model with a 429 and it was sitting in a field that was grown up about the same as in the picture. It had been there for several years. The front tires were flat(and turned full left) and the frame buried in the dirt. Way too low to jack or lift up. Were able to drag it out enough(about 10ft.) from the rear with a tow truck to try and put tires on that held air.The steering column was locked didn't get a set of keys with car so I could'nt straighten the wheels to remove them. Not only that,but they had been on so long the rotors were badly rusted,calipers were frozen so they could not turn. Had to send the tow truck back and request a rollback. Spent almost $200.00 and the car had only moved 10 ft. Heck,I paid that much for the car. It didn't turn out to be such a great bargain after all. IMO Hazelnut has the better suggestion.
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OldRedFord wrote:It was suggested to me tonight to double pull it. Meaning to take a chain from the car to one truck, and chain up between the truck and another all in a line.

This video comes to mind after reading that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqCy7ZxVdgI :lol:
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Are there any old time ('70s-ish era) tow trucks with the big Holmes wrecker boom?
If the ground is dry enough, he could get in, and use the boom to lift front / rear straight up. You could change wheels, beat on the drums, and lay down some planks to pull it out that way.
I had the opportunity to use a setup like this on an F350 (small turning radius). Really worked great. And the guy wasn't worried about paint, as it was mostly used in a scrap yard.

That wagon could fetch a good amount of money stripped down. Lots of valuable parts!
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knightfire83 wrote:
OldRedFord wrote:It was suggested to me tonight to double pull it. Meaning to take a chain from the car to one truck, and chain up between the truck and another all in a line.

This video comes to mind after reading that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqCy7ZxVdgI :lol:
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