Want some opinions...

[67fordtruck]

I would agree the prices are probably pretty similar with each attracting a fairly different crowd.

I tend to think of things in terms of driving enjoyment balanced with being practical. The bird is much more useful for the occasional show off trip to the parts store as well as more comfortable, but the go-cart feel of the "T" may or may not blow your skirt up. With resale value out of the equation and considering both will need to be dissasebled in the near future for paint, the "T" would be much less work. If you want to redo the interior, still much less work.

First off I would drive the "T". If you love it, buy it. Not everybody likes the open air driving. I am not one of them. Form May to September I am doorless and bikini topped on the old CJ5 and would be year around if I could. It is not for everyone though.

[DuckRyder]

From 2160 miles away it looks like your car is built to a higher standard.

I know the color combination is good for a hot rod.

I think I would be tempted to test the market with Hemming's or E-Bay (or both).

[michael69]

I am a GM muscle car die hard fan. I have a 67 SS Chevelle. I know for a fact in my area, even in this economy you are under estimating the price of your firebird. It is easily worth 30 grand with it being a convertible. Now this is in my area. If the car is as good as the pictures and I had 20 grand I would fly out today and buy it then you could go buy what you really wanted,but as you said this is not a perfect world. I would keep it or sell it out right and buy what you really want. Don't get me wrong I love the T's as much as anyone. I also want one,but I think you would really be on the losing end if you did a straight trade.

[Calfdemon]

I appreciate all of the feedback and it has really made me think about this trade. At this time, I think I am going to hold off on getting rid of the bird. Not for this trade anyway. If something else pops up that I cannot pass up, then maybe (like that 67 Fairlane on ebay). But aside from another car that I truly love in as-is condition, I am going to hold off for now. Thanks again for all of the input as I needed the dose of reality.

[averagef250]

I'd also agree your Bird is worth more than 20K if it's as nice as the pictures make it appear, but pictures are hard to tell.

A friend of mine is pretty involved in building, buying and selling muscle cars, hot rods, rat rods, whatever he stumbles across. The cars he's built are the finest I've seen with my own eyes and he's managed some impressive prices even in this economy. That said, he's just purchased a 23 T-bucket that's an older "done right" job like what you're looking at there, but a little rougher from sitting in a garage for a couple decades. He paid $1500 for it and it's steel with a lot of goodies attached. My dad also has a steel 23 T that was built in mid 60's with a 289/C4 and won the '69 Oakland Roadster show. He's not in the market to sell, but I just don't see even the coolest finest T bucket going for tons of cash, they're just too simple to build. My dad's weighs 1200 pounds, the entire steel car!

I will say the T-bucket will probably get more attention than the Firebird though. My dad's had his since the early 80's and never had plates on it. He's had cops pull up beside him and give him thumbs up and ask about the car, but never even been given a warning about the legality of 20" wide rear tires with no fenders, no plates, no lights or no front brakes. I will also say that the 100% stock inside 1967 302 with a tunnel ram and a single 650 DP holley is literally enough to flip the car over if you don't let off before shifting. It would probably run a 12 second 1/4 if you were insane enough to drive it that fast.

[hedz]

i'd keep the pontiac if it were me. but i'm a pontiac guy and have never been able to get enough of them. i've had a catalina and a grand am and a trans am and although they are not what you have, the big cheif will always have a special place in my heart and obviously has one in yours or you would have never tackled the endeavor

[Calfdemon]

If my car was a Camaro, then yeah, it would pull in over $30k. But for some reason, the Firebirds do not sell for the same dollar as the Camaro. There are very few first generation Firebirds in existence compared to the first gen Camaros because the Firebirds were $1000 more when you bought them new. 67 Camaros were $2000 to $2400 new and 67 Firebirds were $2900 to $3400 new depending on options. Since demand was not the same, there were not as many produced as there were Camaros. That and the fact that you can now build a new first gen Camaro out of a box. They reproduce every single part for the first gen Camaro.

Firebirds to Camaros were kind of like Lexus to Toyota. Same basic car (except Pontiac motors kick the crap outta Chevy motors!) with a whole lot more added and a bigger sticker price. Anyway, for some reason, all the buyers want a first gen Camaro which drives their price up. The first gen Firebirds just do not come close to the same dollar amount due to less demand. Maybe I could get someone to pay $30k for my car if I was lucky, but I have been following the Firebird market for 5 years now and I know what they are selling for and $20k to $22k for my car is a more realistic number. Other than a numbers matching 4 speed stick, or a 69 Trans Am, the Firebirds just do not bring in what they should.

[68 Ford Stepside]

Your car in California would probably bring in about twenty grand. In the northeast where salt roads can destroy a automobile fairly quickly, I would think it would easily bring in $25 - $30,000.00. In Australia your Firebird would bring in $35 - $45,000.00 without any discussion.

[Whateverman]

the t is cool,but the bird is frikkin sweet man! unless your head hurts from the smiles that driving it gives ya i'd totally pass on the t

[Calfdemon]

Ok guys... I appreciate everything you guys said and did to keep me from making that previous deal and just settling for a cool car that was not everything I wanted.. Because I did not pull the trigger on that one, I now have the opportunity to possibly get a car I truly love!! I am currently working with the owner of this beauty to see if we can work out a trade!!










It is a 67 Ford Fairlane GT 390, 4 speed. I have not seen the car in person yet and we are working on doing that in the next few weeks. But based on the pictures and what he tells me, it is a beautiful driver that is mostly done. Still has a few things that need doing, but I wouldn't want a car that I didn't need to tinker with. Not only is the car in the condition it is, it is also one of my favorite color schemes. So the changes I would make to this car would be minimal.

Anyway, what do you guys think of this one?? Just curious for opinions, but it is going to take an act of God to pretty much talk me out of this trade if that car is all that it looks to be. The Firebird might be worth slightly more if they were sold outright (maybe...), but not to me. I would take that Fairlane over the bird just about any day.

[Whateverman]

Nice! Do it man.

[sargentrs]

Quick! Pull the trigger before he knows what's hit him. Beautiful car!

[michael69]

That is a hell of a lot better deal than the other. If it is the car you want,and I know it is because you said yourself in the other post you really wanted a Fairlane. This is the deal to make. Also if it is a true Gt 390 4 speed you want lose much on the deal.

[DuckRyder]

Good god that thing is awesome, do it!

[ponyexpress]

I believe the Fairlane would be a much fairer trade on your part. I too am a Ford guy but I wouldn't have traded for the T hotrod. I would much rather trade for an A with a flathead. A 50's era Ford Hotrod. A friend of mine has a 30 roadster with a flathead and juice brakes with a magneto and the car is just awesome. Good luck with your trade for the Fairlane. That 390 would make me pull the trigger.