69 F250 body on 87 bronco frame

[Spectre]

This might help I will be putting a EFI 460 out of a 95' F350 in my 72' so thinking the wiring might be close but havent checked it out yet. Im using the whole 95' harness and splicing in what I can .....


http://nelson.macd.ca/bronco.htm

I know someone who took a 460 out of a 95 F350 and put it in a 78 bronco. He did what I did.. He used the whole entire harness from under the hood and dash.. Everything is plug and play..

If I used my 87 column then everything would be plug in play.. Well except splicing the headlights and tail lights.. Though for the headlights I might not be splicing at all.. I have a budy who says he can get me HID's to replace the existing lights and then an adapter that my 87's harness will plug right in.

Cool! when you said super shortbed I thought of this one... Yours looks way better.

Thanks! I'm pondering in the future of shortening the rear of the bed by 3 or 4 inches but not 100 percent sure..

[rjewkes]

This is a cool, project, and is kinda close to what i have thought about making a bumpside bronco. with the bed welded to tyhe cab with a floorbed that extends into the bed, kinda like a jeep's tub. now i know it won't look too bad.

[Spectre]

Glad I could help! =)

Update. I played with the radiator today.. Got it bolted in and tried messing around with the fan shroud.. Long story short it's going to be a little b*tch so I removed the fan shroud.. (I plan on going to an electric fan anyways) I have to modify the radiator hoses.. Should be interesting.

After that I started hooking of ground wires and what not.. Then I realized my 87 headlight switch and wiper switch will go in the stock location.. And I should be able to retain the 69 face plate on those to keep a factory look.. Tomorrow I plan on hooking up more ground wires and try and finish the wiring.. (except for the column stuff) Then I'll put a battery in it and test the electronics

Also I've figured out how I'm going to do the ignition.. I'm going to use the 69's ignition and just splice into the 87's That way for some reason if it has any issues or failures I can use the 87's actuator as an emergency roadside repair to get me where I'm going..

[rjewkes]

Yeah except for a few things, in the 80's and early 90's ford didn't change too much, my '89 Cougars' Headlamp Switch almost plugs direct into my 72 f100's wiring except some circuits are different and might short if actualy used. and it has one extra circuit that the 72 doesn't have an opening for.

[Spectre]

That's why I'm using the 87 wiring.. no 69 wiring at all.. =)

I swear I spend 2 hours each day on it, but seems like I get less and less done.. Though I'm chalking it up to things that aren't very noticeable I guess.

Not much to update..

I believe I got all the engine harness grounds attached.. Plugged in the ECU.. hooked up the battery and manualy slid the ignition actuator to "Run" Power came to the cluster and I heard the fuel pump prime then shut off. So that's a good thing.. I did get the windshield wiper switch mounted in the dash. Was going to do the headlight switch but I lost the stupid thing that holds the thing that says "headlights" on it.. So I gotta find another one..

Found one of the wiring harnesses for the tail lights somehow was on top of the fuel tank and being sandwich by it and the bed. So I unbolted the rear of the bed.. Lifted it up and had someone putt the harness out.. I ended up smacking the crap out of my head under there.. Kinda laid on my back for a couple minutes just rubbing the injury.. Got a nice bump.. So I literally

Now I have the 69 and 87 tail light harness in here trying to figure it out.. the 87 has 3 wires to the tail light and 2 to the reverse light. The 69 has 2 to the tail light and 1 to the reverse. yay..

[Spectre]

Well I got to thinking about it and became OCD.. Was talking it over in the fullsizebronco.com chat room.. Decided to give something a try..

If I didn't try it tonight I wouldn't of been able to sleep well and would have functioned at work very well..

Took the 69's 2 wire harness and T'ed into the bronco's tail light harness.. Brown to brown and green to green.. Left the ground alone. hooked the battery up and turned on the head light switch..

No lights in the dash..

Realized I had the switch turned the wrong way and the dash lights were dimmed out..

Ok.. dash lights on.. So that means the switch works.. Went to the back and plugged in the harness to the frame harness.. Put in a bulb into the bronco socket.. Bamn Tailight is lit up!

Plugged the 69 harness (the one I t'ed into the bronco harness) It's tail light lit up... Sweeeet! removed the bronco bulb and the 69's bulb went dark..

T'ed in a ground wire and went to the body.. Nothin.... Took the ground wire and went to the chassis of the tail light assembly.. Bulb lit up.

So it looks like I figured out the tail lights and reverse lights.. Tomorrow I'll be wiring all that up and I may even tackle the head lights.. I'll also be taking my 87 steering column out there and just plug in the electrical and test the signal functions..

Though I don't remember where in the harness the brake light switch is so I don't know which plug to try and splice into.. :doh

anyways it's not very much but I'm totally stoked about figuring that out.

[BiggDogg]

Yer flying on this thing! Can't wait to see it once its road worthy

[Spectre]

I don't feel like I'm flying.. I feel like I should be farther along.. Maybe that's because the past 2 weekends I haven't done anything to it. It's only the 1 1/2 - 2 hours of work each night that I've been doing.

But some progress is better then no progress right? =)

[basketcase0302]

Though I don't remember where in the harness the brake light switch is so I don't know which plug to try and splice into..

I would guess you should be able to ID it by the small wiring harness?

Good job, keep up the great work!

[Spectre]

Logically it should be in a specific place in the harness.. That being said I can't find the high beam switch in the harness. .
Though honestly I haven't really dug for it.. Just kinda quick glance in passing while working on something else..


Ok it's 8am.. I just started work.. 5pm is going to take soooooooo long to get here..

[averagef250]

You are fighting an uphill battle and you're a heck of a long way from the finish line. The harnesses don't really even interface, the bumpside starting, charging and gauge systems just stay there. The new engine runs great that way and you don't have a speggetti mess of wires everywhere. I wouldn't run the bump or 80's charging system, they both stink.

I don't know, done quite a few of these and made money doing a few. the wiring start to finish takes maybe 6 hours, more like 3 if you have a clue what you're doing and it looks good.

[ForingaMex]

I've never done one myself but this here makes sence to me.

[Ranchero50]

I'm with Dustin, rip that Bronco harness out and gut it. All you need is the EEC and Fuel Pump relays and wiring, the rest is junk. Use the gauge wirng from the bump, splice the keep alive power to the battery power under the dash, power the fuel pump via the bronco wiring and then run and start wiring and a couple grounds and it's done. Painless. I did the ranchero in '95 with Probst's book.

You are kicking your own arse over the wiring, otherwise it looks like you have some talented friends.

Jamie

[Spectre]

The whole "rip out the harness and what not" would make life even harder.. Right now everything is plug and play "except" for the ignition.. Which after looking at some wiring diagrams it's going to be cake.. Once I sit down and think about it and look at the diagrams it's all easy.. I tend to look at everything in the hard way and over think it and just make it harder on myself.

And Dustin.. I don't need the harness to interface except for the Ignition and lights.. everything is plug in play.. Why would I make it harder on myself?

[Spectre]

Update: Well I get home.. Grabbin a quick bite to eat and BAMN.. My buddy calls me with another flat tire on his bike.

He's pretty unlucky.. Anyway.. rolled out to him in the Super Duty.. Pluged the tire and it wouldn't hold air.. Ended up being 2 holes.. Plugged the second one as well and it held up.. Luckily we were only 4 miles from his house.. Ended up bs'in with him a bunch.. Was cool.. Ended up coming home with very little day light left.. However I brought out the shop light and made sure I did what I wanted..

I can now say the rear lights are all wired up and functional.. Took my steering column out there and plugged it in to test the turns signals. Running lights, Turn signals, and reverse lights. All work! I did try brake lights cause I don't have it hooked up and it was to dark for me to go huntin for the wire.. Still some good accomplishment.. However the hazzards didn't work.. Though I think it's cause those are a separate wire and I didn't have em hooked up.. It was to dark to mess with it..

All in all I think I had the rear of the truck wired up and fully put back together in 20 - 30 "ish" minutes.. I spent a long time waiting for someone to come out and help me by pushing the NSS so I could check the reverse lights..

Tomorrow I plan to do the front lights.. We'll see.. Friday nights is usually reserved for the g/f