1970 f250 camper special

Post progress reports on your project truck(s)

Moderator: FORDification

Post Reply
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

Hi guys. just a quick question to confirm what I was told by an exhaust guy here. I have the 360 engine and I'm not planning on changing that at the moment. I was told best set up would be a single 3 inch from the stock manifolds rather than dual exhaust. he said better torque and for stock there is no need for the duals. what do you guys think?
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

Also, almost have the front end removed. One stuck radiator support to frame rail bolt is tight!
The plan is to:
1. disassemble to the point where I can redo gaskets on the engine (there is a lot of oil splashed around)
2. clean up the engine and paint.
3. Clean engine bay, sand and paint, and sand and paint frame
4. Install new shocks and coil springs
5. Install pertronix 2 ignition and Flamethrower 2 coil
6. Install new alternator
7. Disc brake conversion up front. From my reading my understanding is with the 70 F250 I'm looking at a simpler conversion. I have the dust shields, proportioning valve and brake booster and MC from the 78. The spindles and caliper mounts are the same as the drum brake hardware on F250 of my year apparently :pray: I will need a different outer wheel bearing (or was it inner :hmm: ) and new rotors etc.
8. Do power steering swap. I have all the items now out of a 78 f250. Only thing I'm still in need of is the inner firewall bracket but might be able to cook something up. Also, have a friend who will cut the manual steering shaft to fit Saginaw box.
9.I have a new inner fender on the way and a 73-77 rad support to adapt before install.
Front End Disassembled.jpg
Front Drivers Side Frame Rail.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
DuckRyder
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4925
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:04 pm
Location: Scruffy City
Contact:

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by DuckRyder »

With respect to the exhaust.

IMO if you’re going to run stock manifolds on an FE, nothing you do after that really matters... Of course if it is a stock 360, it is not exactly hi performance either.
Robert
1972 F100 Ranger XLT (445/C6/9” 3.50 Truetrac)

"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -- Jeff Cooper
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

I had time this weekend to deal with the front end from the 1978 that I picked up last year. Bought a pickle fork and that worked wonders on all the necessary spots.

But i noticed that the 78 spindle does look different than the 1970, though I was under the impression that for F250's i wouldn't need to change out the whole front end like the F100's.

Here's what I have on the 1970 Camper Special:
1970 Front Brake Setup.jpg
And here's what I have on the 78:
1978 Front Brake Setup.jpg
There is a bolt hole in the same location on the lower arm of the mounting plates but they are shaped differently.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

Here are the components I ended up with.
1978 Front End.jpg
Power Steering Box.jpg
Power Steering Pump.jpg

I thought I would be doing the disc brakes first but I believe the proportioning valve is supposed to be on the power steering box so I will do the steering first.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

Do you guys recognize the pump bracket above? It doesn't seem to match the brackets i've found on this website or anywhere else.
User avatar
DuckRyder
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4925
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:04 pm
Location: Scruffy City
Contact:

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by DuckRyder »

I’m not too sure what you are asking on the spindles, it doesn’t help that the parts and the floor blend together ....

Pump bracket looks strange... :?
Robert
1972 F100 Ranger XLT (445/C6/9” 3.50 Truetrac)

"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -- Jeff Cooper
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

I'll try and get some better pictures tonight. It all came off a 1978 or 9 F250 2wd.
User avatar
Ranchero50
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5799
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 pm
Location: Maryland, Hagerstown
Contact:

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by Ranchero50 »

It's a late '70's bracket, probably off a modified or other junk. You should be able to get a set of FE brackets and swap them out.
'70 F-350 CS Cummins 6BT 10klb truck 64k mile Bahama Blue

Contact me for CNC Dome Lamp Bezels and Ash Tray pulls.
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

so after some reading and digging it appears that is a bracket from an inline 6. I guess the only question left is do I need the old ford metal reservoir bracket or the Saginaw bracket?
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

this looks like I need the bracket in the top right.
20140527115057.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Ranchero50
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5799
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 pm
Location: Maryland, Hagerstown
Contact:

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by Ranchero50 »

You can run the older style pump and bracketry, just buy the correct hose.
'70 F-350 CS Cummins 6BT 10klb truck 64k mile Bahama Blue

Contact me for CNC Dome Lamp Bezels and Ash Tray pulls.
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

well, got some engine disassembly done tonight. just little by little as this is a hobby and there's real life to deal with. removed the fan, hoses, alternator and bracket. there is lots of oil leaking down the front and back so I think my cork gasket job on the intake two years ago wasn't so good.

I ordered a bracket for the power steering pump. I already have the hoses that were with it on the 79.

also got my new inner fender yesterday!
lloyd70cs
New Member
New Member
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:49 pm
Location: Victoria, BC

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by lloyd70cs »

It's Official, I'm in over my head!
Heads Off.jpg
I was just trying to paint the engine and then there was so much oil I figured there must be a gasket leaking, but then I wasn't sure which one so I thought I better do all of them. I wasn't actually planning on doing the heads, but to all your amusement I'm sure, I started loosening what I thought were the intake bolts only to notice they were the head bolts. So they're off now :eek: :oops: :cry:

Not sure what to do now. I have head gaskets on order, they'll be in on Tuesday. This is far beyond what i planned to do, but probably needed to happen and I don't feel like doing this again any time soon!

I was going to redo the oil pan gasket and oil pump in all of this. How hard and how much would it be to now convert this to a 390, while in the truck?!?

Can I do the rings while at this stage?

Hmmm, odd moment where i wish I had bought a smart car :D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
DuckRyder
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4925
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:04 pm
Location: Scruffy City
Contact:

Re: 1970 f250 camper special

Post by DuckRyder »

This probably won’t make you feel any better, but I was just going to reseal mine and the next think I know I have like 9 grand in the engine...

Give us some shots of the cylinder walls and the ridge at the top of the cylinders...
Robert
1972 F100 Ranger XLT (445/C6/9” 3.50 Truetrac)

"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -- Jeff Cooper
Post Reply